Hi, how r u? remember me?

Quote by babyLemondammit, person, you REALLY need to work on your spelling... Seriously, you sound like a stupid angsty teenager who tries too hard to be "cool" while actually sounding like you're a stupid hick who has no education at all. Please, if you want to be cool, use big words instead of some stupid ebonics spelling.

As for your question, I think, best friend is someone who could tell me that my ass looks big in a particular pair of jeans, someone who doesn't mind telling me that I am doing something stupid, and someone who doesn't mind telling me what to do. I think, a best friend is someone who'd be honest with you.

babylemon-san
I'm sorry if you found my spelling completely horrible ^^'' I just spell that way... not to be cool or anything... in fact, I'm actually very pleased you find me to be a 'stupid hick who has no education at all' haha ^^ Considering your thoughts on best friends, I think you would make a very good best friend =) You may sound harsh... but... I think you would be very loving in your own way ^^ bekuz you asked me to... i will now be spelling everything the way that is hopefully correct now except on pages where people have told me it is okay to spell... not normally =) if you wish to reply to this please do ^^
m.i.a. ^^

Quote by babyLemonBeing a member of this forum for a few weeks, now, I notice something that's a bit... disturbing. So far as I recall, the official language of MiniTokyo is English, and not Engrish. However, it does seem like a whole lot of posts here are rather incomprehensible due to its language. It's rather hard to understand what people are saying when they are saying it with such poor grammar and sentence construction. I am not saying that I am perfect myself. But I think, it will be nice to be considerate to other people, and perhaps spell check/grammar check your posts. I think, it would make the forum that much more enjoyable, and it would definitely promote a more healthy intelligent discussions.

Thoughts?

I agree, I don't so much mind about those who's first language isn't english; usually they at least spell correctly & convey the thought well enough, what i hate is the laziness a lot of people are employing. Spelling words incorrectly to shorten them, abbreviating with numbers to represent letters, over-excessive use of acronyms, all these make the forum very sloppy & degrade the overall quality, not to mention that kind of wording seems so bad it makes me sick, often they throw well structured grammar out the door too.

Quote by babyLemonWell, question is, will this be better? Or would you want your parents to just abandon you in singapore while they move out to canada? If you wan to be abandoned in singapore, well, that's easily achieved... On the day that your parents are moving out, leave a message saying that you're staying, and that they should go and not worry about you, and run away from home. If you want to commit suicide, please make it clear that it IS suicide, so, your parents are not getting in trouble for child abuse or anything like that. And remember, if you really want to commit suicide, the knife should cut down your arm, not across your wrist. And do try to contain all the blood and mess and gore, and whatever in the bathtub, so it's easy to clean...

Otherwise, well, I went away from my home of 18 years across the globe, and I think that's the best thing I've done for myself my whole life. I spose, it's not that bad here, and I get used to the food. :: shrug :: just me, tho... and I didn't really cry either when I left...

yo

well I think I know this isn't my problem but isn't your story a bit to extreme about suicide?

don't comment my post if you don't want to.

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Quote by republicsoldieryo

well I think I know this isn't my problem but isn't your story a bit to extreme about suicide?

don't comment my post if you don't want to.

Lol, the girl DID mention suicide, so, I figured, I should tell her what the minimal proper manners is for that method. At least, if she did choose to do it, she would know what NOT to do.

At any rate, I do believe that she should make her own choice. If she wants to know about suicide, I tell her about suicide Wrist slitting isn't even that effective anyways... But let her try if she wants. I bet you she won't even find her arteries, before she puked her guts out and chickened out.

Sorry if I am a bit morbid. I guess, I am a bit blunt with these things.

ah ok lol. it is a bit extreme but yeah i think it usually would change someones mind ^^' ok ok how do you know so much about these things?

Quote by babyLemonHere's the thing, I would refuse going out with someone just because they're ugly. But, on the other hand, I am NOT going to go out with someone just because they're pretty/handsome.

If they are ugly, I don't think they'll even get a chance at all. I know it's shallow, but this is the cold hard truth. If I can't look at you and hold my lunch, I think I'd better walk before I puke all over you. It's harsh, but that's life. So, if you're ugly, I wouldn't even get the chance to know how attractive you are, personality-wise. I wouldn't even really want to be more than friends with you.

On the other hand, if someone attracts me, visually, I might go and talk to him/her, and well, he/she might prove to be interesting. If so, good, we can hook up and see where this all go. If he/she's dumb, or annoying, or whatever, I'll just stop talking to them and walk. Same thing.

Really, people, get it through your thick skulls. There ARE people out there with GREAT personalities that are drop dead gorgeous. So, what you do is, you look for these people.

Lol i cant help it but by the way you speak... you kinda like sound like a man =X
Dont ask me why... but from the post at first impression i thought you were a man or lesbian(i didnt say that) at least....

But then came this post....

Quote by babyLemonEver heard of the nice-guy-syndrome? Yeah. Women like men who has some... backbone... you know, spine and all that, will, decision making, firmness (not just the down area, mind you!). So, in short, yes, you can be eliminated from the potential long-term mate list because you're too... "nice".

The reason why it is so different between dating and making friends is the fact that in a relationship/dating/lovey dovey stuffs, you are expected to shag them. I personally don't fancy waking up in the morning and seeing this hideous face lying right next to me, naked. I think, I would like to save myself from that "coyote ugly" stuffs, and just not go out with anyone whose looks I don't fancy.

So, yeah, don't be too naive, lol. There are millions of guys out there who've been turned down with the line, "But, you're my best friend, and I don't want to ruin that".

And now that what i would most likely hear from a girl

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Lol... the story of my life. I was raised as a guy (father wanted a son, and I came along), and I ended up being a bi. I guess, I am more masculine than what you'd expect a girl to be like, but I do have my girly moments, lol.

I am sorry if I am confusing you.

Nah no need to be sorry ^_^.. it just abit of a case of weird personal thinking that i find really intriguing ^_^

Well in my country it is very common for people to want a boy.... lol chinese just want a boy in their family... They really take carrying on family heritage a big issue... and that makes lots of girls in a difficult spot.... ^_^ thats kinda nice to hear you are bi ever ask a girl out before?

Hi. I already add u to my fl cz i would like u to be my friend. U don't have to do the same thing if u mind ^^ see ya!

Quote by babyLemonLol... to be able to discuss this, you should be able to define "love". Now, if you can do this, do contact me. I'd like to know myself. Otherwise, it's just a state induced by dopamine.

Attachment, however, something that's most likely being mistaken as "love" will most likely lead to being hurt, as mentioned by thread starter. In the end, you don't need "love" to survive, but having a crush, infatuation, and getting attached indeed will make life a bit easier and a bit more interesting.

So, to me, love is like a diamond tiara. Do I need it? Nope. Do I want it? Hmmm... to be frank, not sure... Would it be nice to have? Sure.

Thanks for participating on my thread!
Sry but i can't define "love" and to be honest i don't think it's quite possible.
Can "love" be defined by words? No, I don't think so. It should be more than that.
and I don't think that i've said that "you don't need love to survive", If it were true, I really wonder what I'm doing here in this world.
One can be very strong but Never stronger than Two. One's strength is made of pain and wrath while Two's strength is made, of "love".

As I've mentioned, I don't really know much about "love", I've seen a small Lake while there's a whole Ocean left to discover.

oh yeah, excuse my bad english i don't even know what "dopamine" is...hehehe

Quote by babyLemonHeh... Just remember... Little razor goes down the street to get somewhere. Across if it wants to get attention so that when the wambulance arrives, it can wha wha whine.

Or, you can always buy arsenic and that'd be pretty quick...

Huh?

Hi, babyLemon.

Glad that my post called upon your attention, and glad you answered some good points.

Have you heard of Camelot? It's a British legend. About a man that was and will be king. Becuse he dreamed of a place were justice and peace prevailed. Where all men would be treated as equals. He fougth for it. He was betrayed. And ultimately, killed.

Quote by babyLemonHeh, I was one of the troubled kids, actually. In fact, I was THE troubled kid. I never got into trouble academically because I was really useful to my school and my country (trust me, being in the Indonesian Math Olympic team really help with the school bit), but boy, did I get into trouble. I had one of my mates murdered in front of me, and got into fights. I was in a gang, and all that
jazz.

That means you're a strong person. I like people who have been challenged by life. They're the ones who makes the world move around. Especially if they are brigth. Good.

Quote by babyLemonNow, you dared people to reach troubled kids? Fine, I will just tell you what I needed, and what I did to get out of it. I needed someone to accept me as I was, and to just care about me. I had really low self esteem, and basically, I kept thinking that everyone's just using me because I was smarter. I kept being told that I was ugly, and that I was too tall, and that I was really not much use had I not been brainy.

I went trouth almost the same, I'm chronological depressive. Low self esteem, and very enraged during my teen years. Those were difficult years, having a selfish, rancouros and uncaring father, who enjoyed with my defeats. Kids always mocking at me because of my physical defects (escoleosis, an hear without I was still a strong kid, and tried to help my mother the best as I could.

The depression is in the genes, but you need something to trigger it. I bit the dust seriously. Have you ever wondered how it feels to be an animal? I did. For six months. I could barely think, and rage was on the surface always. Just because I was used since a child to swallow my rage I didn't do anything to other person. But I did a lot of damage to myself. Physically and emotionally. And I needed a whole year and a half to barely have a more or less normal life. And because is such a stong depression, it comes and goes until today. Luckily, I don't fall again to those levels. But a cousin of mine couldn't stand his own depression and killed himself.

Quote by babyLemonSo, what did I need? I need to wake myself up and know that that's just what life is. A struggle to stay afloat. Other people want to stay afloat, too, and they stay afloat by hoping to drown you. So, what do you do? You ignore them and work your own way in life.

Agreed. Here in Mexico we call that "the law of the crabs" You don't need to put a lid on a boucket full of crabs, if one tries to go out, the others will pull it down. Usually the first ones to pull you down is your own family. Good for you that fougth and went afloat. BUT YOU CAN'T JUST WIN AND STAY UP THERE. I know, it's everyone's dream. I'll tell you why in a moment.

Quote by babyLemonBut you know what? I am proud I was in a gang. I am proud I was in trouble before. I am proud I've witnessed a murder. I am proud to have been in trouble before. I think it's bloody useful, having all those experience. I think, by being all those, I know what life is like. Life is not a picnic where everyone sing hosannah all day.

Good thing you're proud of that. I'm proud to have crowled back to civil life. And being part animal. But I think you misunderstood something. I don't sing hossanna all day. Nor we teach that to the kids. My father is still here (well, he learned to respect me, for my rage periods, but no, I didn't hit him). I'm already 33 and althougth I have a normal life, I think that I have still to find my way.

The children don't sing hossanna neither. It's a mindwiping factory. We teach to the kids that they can be better people than his parents. They are hit, they have only single mothers, their fathers are drunks, etc. Still, they want to hear about love. And they come by their own feet.

By the way, I'm the black sheep of my group. my function in it is not to sing hossanna.

Quote by babyLemonLife is based on one principle, and one principle only. Survival of the fittest.

I don't agree with you. I challenge survival of the fittest. I believe in caring, protecting, loving. Not only the kids. Try picking up a kitten abandoned in the streeth (have done that wth about a dozen), and you'll be defeating "survival of the fittest".

It's sad to know you believe in such a thing. Yes, you told me where you come from. But you'll be isolating yourself. Not caring truly about others. What do you teach to others? Rage? Crush the weakest? I sincerely hope you change your mind. Because you'll learn to use your hard-earned STRENGTH TO PROTECT AND TEACH. Otherwise, one day an animal bigger than you will come and eat you alive. And it'll be survival of the fittest. Devoured by your own law.

It's not easy to be accepted by the children. Some mates have been hit, always insulted. But we receive that rage and don't turn it back. Why? Masochism. Ha, no, it's for love.

Quote by babyLemonSo, yeah. You try preaching to those kids about religion. Lol. I think it might work with a very little portion of them, but mostly, they just need some time to be in trouble, some time to find their way out. Sure, you can help by just accepting them as they are. If you want to tell them about religion, go ahead, but really, what they need is acceptance.

Acceptance is what we give. I wouldn't change them. Everyone is unique. The weak, the happy, the bully... They come and hug you. And they want you to hug them.

Last year we were just six cathequist, the old four (me, a marriage about 27 both, and one 26) and two kids. Today we are 22. All kids from the neighborhood. Because we insisted. And again, they came AND STAYED, TO TEACH THE SAME THEY WERE TAUGTH.

Quote by babyLemonAnother thing about this soul business. I can say the same about you and your principle. Think about it. You are too lazy to find inner peace within yourself. Just within yourself, no outside thing whatsoever, no god, no jesus, no muhammad, noone else, just you.

Can you just shut everything down and be in peace? Or are you going to desperately claw on to god to fill the emptiness with? Sure, you'll say, "but god is in me", etc. Well, that's what you think... are you sure those are not the devil? From what I heard, those pesky little buggers are pretty good in disguising themselves, no? So?

You didn't get it. you can't give what you don't have. I'm not lazy. Lazy? Why? I didn't get it. It's a lot of work and time that you give. It's a sacrifice.

Have you tried to really shut everything down? Confront your own demons in the silence? To let them shout everything you hate about yourself?

About others? To let them remind you your failures, to fill you with hopelessness?

It's a scary land to walk.I'm not desesperately clawing to God. You don't know how many times I have tried to get rid from him. But He doesn't let me. He's tricky.

Once he called me with my friends and a girl I was in love with. She left, she didn't want to give more of her time. My friends did too. I stayed with a new generation of cathequists. Once He came and knocked my door. I had quited teaching cathecism and a friewnd came to told me
to help him with his group. I went. Two months later, he quited, and I stayed with those 8-year old in my hands.

No, devils don't disguise in angels nor God. It's a rule. They disguise in money, power, envy, lust, fear, hopelessness, selfishness, easy life. Who could resist? Angels look boring.

Quote by babyLemonOn topic, I think man made god. That's why god is so... man-like. It speaks, it creates, it rests... Some people wonder about roman and greek gods. Well, they are still alive. Some people still believe in them, as devoted as these christians/muslims/whatever, I'd say. Ever wonder where they all go? Look no further than your own
copy of bible. Jesus is the amalgamation of almost all the gods known to human kind. Ever wonder why christmas is in december? Well, because that's when the pagan's winter solstice used to be. I mean, seriously, read your bible, if the shepherds are sleeping outdoors, do you think it could be december? Yeah. In the panic attempt to spread christianity
to the pagan (which actually means country-dweller), christianity absorbs a lot of the pagan holiday.

Teach me something new! One of my hobbies is mithology, superstitions and religions. Jesus maybe was born in april, when the sheephers take

the sheep to open land. In the decembers was celebrated the shamaheim in the northrn lands, by the celts. The hope of the return of the sun. Jesus is the hope of the ligth. See why?.

Well, you're a strong girl. And very smart. I didn't wanted to diminish or be unrespectfull of your battles and beliefs. Just didn't want mine to be diminished.

You can make a quantum leap in your life, if from your already won battles you try to expierence the reach of the other, the needed. They don' have to be troubled teens. And please, open your hand to the unffitting.

You may call me a poor looser and a dreamer, BUT I PREFER TO FIGTH FOR CAMELOT THAN BECOMING PART OF THE SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST. I think it needs bravery. And be a little crazy, too.

Ce ya.

BL, you've renewed my hope that humanity might eventually embrace rational ideals over collective superstition.

Quote by babyLemonLol, I've been in a few of these myself. Will it work? Yeah, I married one of them. Of course, before anyone asked, I live with him now.

However, look closer to asinine's examples and his/her question. I don't think that's the right question to ask for those examples. The underlying problem with the examples is the betrayed feeling. Everyone goes through a long distance relationship with this light in the end of the tunnel. Now, you're not going to be terribly happy if you go through the dark tunnel, and realise that the light in the end of the tunnel really isn't the end of the tunnel, it's just a crack on the top of the tunnel that lets a bit of sunshine in.

Take the case of Lena. She expected that they will be together once the boyfriend is done with school. That's why she did what she did. However, she soon found out that the boyfriend would like to go and get a graduate degree. At first, she thought, hey, it might be over soon, too. But still, she feels betrayed about the whole endeavour. What seemed to be the end of the distance prove not to be. Instead, it's an extra few years, and on top of that, he is going to request additional funding from her. Oh dear... How do you think Lena would feel? "A bloke who can't pay for his own school, trying to take advantage of me by trying to get a master's as well on top of the bachelor's that I gave him..." Yeah, dumpage.

Take a look at the other example. it's got the same underlying tone all over. The original was a few years, then, it's become a few years + 5 years. I mean, after you are being told that you would have to endure something for a certain period of time, you have certain expectation. And when you end up being told that that period of time is now extended, or worse, has become indefinite, you feel betrayed, and you lost all hope.

So, to answer your question, can long distance relationship work? Yes, it can. True, both of them will be missing each other, etc etc, but it doesn't have to be that miserable. Will it work? who knows, lol. But in those cases, you really ought to know that their relationships are doomed, not because they are long distance, but because the sudden change of the period of time they have to be apart.

^_^ spot on ... glad you manage to really see the other side of my examples... i only realise that the example i gave was abit offset later after work ^_^ LOl imactually abit lazy to write and make extra examples to amplify the topic but the current examples seem to get people talking just fine.... besides i dont really like to tell others insights of some of my friends...

Oh yea the relationships were pretty doom before she told me... but she really was a hardworking and "i hope to get my bf wishes come true" girl... Its kinda sadenning the way she plan out everything for him... crying countless of hours just because his dog died... *and its because of old age* thinking she didnt do a good job taking care of it... She really is an ideal girl... Dumb boyfriend to take advantage of that...

Well thank you for participating in my thread ^_^
(Lol I will try to add some more.. after i get my fingers working and not twitching from exhaustion)

Quote by babyLemonLol. I am a girl, and yet, I agree with dutchforce completely here. I am bi, so, I swing both ways (Oh well...). There are loads of people out there with both, looks, and personality. I mean, think about it, if you're going to be with someone for a while, you don't want to be repulsed when you look at him/her, and on top of that, you don't want to have to hide him/her from your friends. You want to flaunt them, show the world that you landed someone. So, would you want to do that if he/she is... ugly?

Sure, personality could really grate at you after a while. And it's definitely not good for long term relationships. But looking at it realistically, personality is not something that you can see from the outside. So, how do you decide who to approach? The girls/guys whom you think is attractive of course. So, in short, I don't think I can live without one or another.

There are loads of fishes out there. If you don't like what you catch... Well... catch another one One of them is bound to be pretty, AND tasty

LO-fukin-LZ... gdamn ear infection... lolz... u r so right... ^___^

that's all,

take care...

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